Avengers 4 News and Rumors: Everything We Know (and Can Guess)
We’ve put together a list of some of the Avengers 4 news and rumors that we know, some based on evidence, some on educated guesses. This article will be updated with new info frequently.
It’s nearly impossible to escape the gravitational pull of Avengers: Infinity War, a film with the rare combination of living up to most fans’ expectations, while simultaneously keeping people excited for what comes next. For a younger generation of moviegoers, Infinity War is their Empire Strikes Back, finishing with a cliffhanger every bit as shocking as seeing Han going into the carbonite, but thankfully we won’t have to wait nearly as long for the resolution.
The still-untitled Avengers 4 (more on that below) is less than a year away, which in movie terms is nothing (there was a three-year gap between Empire and Jedi). For fans, however, the year will pass slowly. With that in mind, we’ve collected all the Avengers 4 news and rumors we could find. Join us in obsessing over them!
We will try to avoid any significant spoilers, but be warned, there are a few very minor things that could give away plot points, like set pics (you may want to avoid the “story” section below). Beyond that, most of this is guesswork, albeit based educated guesses. If you haven’t seen Infinity War yet, this is not the article for you.
We’ll continue to update this article leading up to the release, and if you know of anything we missed, let us know in the comments below.
While there is a lot we don’t know about Avengers 4, one thing we do know for sure is the release date.. maybe.
Avengers 4 is currently scheduled to hit theaters on May 3, 2019. That date has been locked in for several years now, but Marvel and Disney did suddenly move the release of Infinity War up a week, so things could change. Even if it does, it probably won’t move more than a week in either direction, barring some unforeseen delay in post-production.
In terms of titles/subtitles, only a handful of films in history have weathered as much scrutiny as Avengers 4 has, and will continue to receive. Only Star Wars is really close on that front, but then again, there haven’t been many films quite like Avengers 4.
When Marvel initially announced Avengers 3 and 4, it listed both films as Infinity War Part 1 & Part 2. Either that was always meant as a placeholder or Marvel changed its mind later, but MCU boss Kevin Feige made it clear that the two films are separate movies and it wasn’t fair to call them Part 1 and Part 2. After Infinity War we have a few hints to work with.
To start with, Infinity War and Avengers 4 directors Antony and Joe Russo said that fans should be scared of the title. That’s ominous but doesn’t really leave us much to go on. It does seem to eliminate any possible titles like “Avengers: Triumphant” or “Avengers: Assembled,” but it’s a vague statement.
A few titles have also been officially ruled out, like “Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet,” and Joe Russo also said “I don’t think there are any comics that correlate to [the title],” so that may rule out “Avengers: Infinity Crusade.” The Russos also stated that the title wasn’t heard in Infinity War, killing a few popular options, including “Avengers: Endgame.” They went on to say that the closest guess they’ve seen was “Avengers: Forever,” but that doesn’t really fit with the “fans should be scared” angle though. But in that vein maybe something like “Avengers: Requiem?” A connection to “time” may also be emphasized (see story section below), so “Eternity War” is a possibility.
Marvel hasn’t said when they will announce the title, but it probably won’t be until after Infinity War has left theaters, and maybe even much longer. If it wasn’t for marketing concerns, Marvel would probably withhold the title until after Captain Marvel hits theaters next March, but we’ll probably find out much sooner than that, maybe even after Ant-Man and the Wasp. It would be a great reveal for Marvel at Comic-Con…
While we can drop some educated guesses on things like the title, in terms of the story we are basically in pure speculation territory. There are things like set pics to go on, but they may not necessarily mean what we think they mean.
What we do know is Thanos will return and the Infinity Stones are still very much in play.
We also know that somehow the “dusting” of some – if not all – the characters will be undone. Even if Marvel were somehow willing to kill off half of its immensely successful characters, several of those characters already have sequels of their own in the works, including Black Panther, the Guardians, and Spider-Man. There will be major deaths, however, and the characters killed before the dusting may stay dead (although our money is on Gamora coming back, and possibly Vision too – Loki might also return in a later movie, but this is all guesswork).
One potential clue we have that may not be what it seems is that there appears to be a heavy time travel element in the film. Onlookers managed to capture several shots from the set, which seem to be recreating the Battle of New York (the climax of The Avengers) – but there are some significant changes.
While Chris Evans appears to be wearing the suit he wore in Avengers, and his hair and clean cut look matching that film, Robert Downey Jr.’s Iron Man is wearing S.H.I.E.L.D. clothing instead of armor and – more significantly – Paul Rudd’s Ant-Man is there. That could suggest Iron Man and Ant-Man are the ones time traveling. They all seem to have discs on their hands as well, which could be something to do with the VFX, but they seem more deliberate than that. Downey Jr. also looks a little grayer than before, which could suggest that the film starts years after the events of Infinity War (which would also explain a potentially grief-stricken Hawkeye’s change to Ronin – see the section below). That could also fit with what the film’s writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely said.
“[Avengers 4] doesn’t do what you think it does. It is a different movie than you think it is.” Markus told Buzzfeed. “Also…[the deaths are] real. I just want to tell you it’s real, and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to move on to the next stage of grief.”
Captain Marvel will also play a significant role, and at one point in the film, all (or nearly all) of the dozens of actors who play Marvel characters will appear in one scene together. Imagine a scene where the camera pans across the entire MCU hero roster as the Avengers theme plays. That’s hard to resist.
According to Feige, once the dust settles everything will be different. What that means is very much up for interpretation, but the MCU will be slightly different going forward.
Who will survive? Who will die?
While it made for a hell of a cliffhanger, most people that saw Infinity War understood that there will be some form of a reset in regards to the characters that turned into dust at the end. That doesn’t mean they won’t die later though.
If you want our guesses and breakdown of who we think will live and who will die (which was written before Infinity War came out but the arguments stand), you can find it here. The Cliff’s Notes version is that many of the deaths may be defined by the contracts.
To start with, Avengers 4 will almost certainly be the last film for Chris Evans – he has said as much. That could always be a misdirect, but Evans said the main reason he stuck around this long was to finish up the story. With the MCU showing no signs of slowing down, that probably means Captain America is going to die – Cap doesn’t seem like the retiring type.
The other most likely Avenger to die by contract is Iron Man. Downey Jr. is the highest paid actor in the world thanks to the Marvel films; he earned $200 million for his work in Infinity War and the sequel. Even if he isn’t ready to leave, Marvel Studio would probably be happy to not have to pay that much in the future. Unlike Cap, however, the character of Tony Stark could simply retire. Stark discussed having a kid, and if Downey Jr. is willing to do the odd cameo, it might work for everyone. That said, killing him off would be a natural way to close out the last ten years of Marvel. It makes financial sense for Marvel Studio, and it would give a good emotional kick to Avengers 4.
Others facing similar prospect are the Hulk, Nick Fury, and Thor, although Chris Hemsworth has hinted that he might be willing to return – and given that the character seems to have only just begun to really find his stride, it would be a shame to see him leave now. Jackson hasn’t really said one way or the other, but Mark Ruffalo has suggested that Avengers 4 will be his last turn as Banner/Hulk.
Jeremy Renner is a little tougher to read. He has a clause in his contract for a solo film, but there hasn’t really been much demand for it. That could always change in Avengers 4, and set pics suggest that he may be putting aside Hawkeye in favor of the Ronin alter ego, fundamentally changing the character.
However it comes down, expect a few noble sacrifices.
What comes next?
Before Avengers 4 hits theaters, Marvel still has Ant-Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel – both are set before Infinity War, and both will probably have some strong connections to Avengers 4.
Following Avengers 4 and the conclusion of Phase Three, Marvel has movies planned through at least 2025 (and probably after). After Avengers 4, Marvel may decide to do a big reveal similar to how it introduced Phase Three, or it might wait and release bits and pieces over the years. Marvel says it is currently working on seven films after Avengers 4, and that number will certainly grow.
So far the only films confirmed for Phase Four are Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, the untitled sequel to Spider-Man: Homecoming (from Sony Pictures in collaboration with Marvel), and a Black Panther sequel. Beyond that, Marvel is keeping quiet, partly to keep the focus on the current Phase and partly because some of those titles may be spoilers in terms of who lives and who dies. There are also some rumors as to what may come, including a Black Widow film said to be in the works, and a possible female-led superteam.
Another question in terms of what comes after Avengers 4 is when the various films will be set, regardless of release date. The Spider-Man sequel, for instance, is said to begin minutes after the end of Avengers 4, so it will likely deal with some of the consequences. Given the cosmic scale of Infinity War and presumably its sequel, it would also make sense to have the next Guardians film deal with some of the consequences on that end too (including the fall of Xandar and the Nova Corps).
And then there’s the looming, but still far from finalized purchase of 21st Century Fox by Disney that would bring the X-Men and Fantastic Four characters into the MCU.
This is the end (of Phase Three)
Regardless of who lives and dies and what films come next, Avengers 4 is designed to be the end of an era. Although it was probably a very loose plan when the MCU was first dreamed up more than 10 years ago, Avengers 4 will be the culmination of 22 movies. And after this, things are going to change.
Along with a new overarching story (or stories) that connect the films and lead to Avengers 5 and beyond, there will be slightly different tone, according to Feige. Naturally, he isn’t going into detail on what that means, but there are consequences in the MCU world. The emergence of the heroes in Phase One led to the invasion of Earth, the Battle of New York indirectly led to the destruction of Sokovia, the Sokovia Accords led to the Civil War, etc., etc. Even assuming Thanos’ actions are undone, there will still be consequences and we’ll see those in Phase Four and on.
As for the stories we’ll see after the fall of Thanos, we have a few thoughts on that.
Random Avengers 4 News and Rumors
- It may be significant or it may just be nod to the films, but the original Avengers were among those that survived Infinity War.
- In Avengers 4, some of the story of where Steve Rogers and company have been and what they’ve been doing while on the run will be revealed.
- The Marvel/Netflix heroes will not be in Avengers 4.
- Pepper Potts will wear an Iron Man-like suit at some point.
- Infinity War was the longest MCU film to date; Avengers 4 might be longer.
- One of the unannounced Phase Four films is rumored to be based on the Eternals, which would likely see a connection to the Infinity Stones.
- The post-credit scene from Ant-Man and the Wasp may have a huge impact on Avengers 4.
- A cinematographer who worked on Avengers 4 recently updated his resume to include an entry for “Avengers: End Game,” leading many to believe that it’s the official title. Of course, there’s no reason to think he would even know the official title and may simply be listing his best guess or a working title.